Bodog line comparisons

[ChadC]

Remember last week we were talking about bodog offering different people different lines? Well here is what I have, tell me if there are any differences.

1:00p Game can be seen on FOX
199 Atlanta Falcons
+11½ 41½ Over
Under
Matchup
200 New York Giants
-11½
1:00p Game can be seen on FOX
201 Seattle Seahawks
-3 (-130) -175 40½ Over
Under
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202 Washington Redskins
+3 (+110) +155
1:00p Game can be seen on FOX
203 Arizona Cardinals
+7 (-105) +260 40 Over
Under
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204 Pittsburgh Steelers
-7 (-115) -320
1:00p Game can be seen on FOX
205 Chicago Bears
+1½ 37½ Over
Under
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206 Detroit Lions
-1½
1:00p Game can be seen on CBS
207 Houston Texans
+5 +175 40½ Over
Under
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208 Cincinnati Bengals
-5 -210
1:00p Game can be seen on FOX
209 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
-3½ (EVEN) -180 34½ Over
Under
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210 Carolina Panthers
+3½ (-120) +160
1:00p Game can be seen on CBS
211 Miami Dolphins
+5½ +190 40 Over
Under
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212 Tennessee Titans
-5½ -230
1:00p Game can be seen on CBS
213 Indianapolis Colts
-7 (-105) -260 44½ Over
Under
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214 Jacksonville Jaguars
+7 (-115) +220
1:00p Game can be seen on CBS
215 Cleveland Browns
+10 (-115) +375 44 Over
Under
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216 Kansas City Chiefs
-10 (-105) -550
4:05p Game can be seen on FOX
217 Minnesota Vikings
-6½ (-105) -240 44½ Over
Under
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218 San Diego Chargers
+6½ (-115) +200
4:15p Game can be seen on CBS
219 Buffalo Bills
+4½ (-115) +165 37 Over
Under
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220 Dallas Cowboys
-4½ (-105) -190
4:15p Game can be seen on CBS
221 New York Jets
-3 (-130) -170 38 Over
Under
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222 Oakland Raiders
+3 (+110) +150
8:30p Game can be seen on ESPN
223 Baltimore Ravens
+7 +255 43 Over
Under
Matchup
224 St. Louis Rams
-7 -310


Mon, Nov 10, 03 Spread Moneyline Total Score

9:05p Game can be seen on ABC
225 Philadelphia Eagles
+5 +175 43½ Over
Under
Matchup
226 Green Bay Packers
-5 -210

 

[WhateverMakesYouNervous]

I have Atlanta NY at 11 and 41 at 10:57AM

 

[ChadC]

anyone else??

 

[Mosi]

Yes, did look at all of them but they have me with Indy -6.5 -115. A big half point they do not want me to have. Smae thing with ATL and SD. Did not look at all of them. But yes, they have different lines for some players. I am flagged.

And no this is not because the lines have changed in the last half hour. I just looked at live lines and mine are different from those.

 

[Mosi]

1:00p Game can be seen on FOX
199 Atlanta Falcons
+11 41 Over
Under
Matchup
200 New York Giants
-11
1:00p Game can be seen on FOX
201 Seattle Seahawks
-3 (-130) -175 40½ Over
Under
Matchup
202 Washington Redskins
+3 (+110) +155
1:00p Game can be seen on FOX
203 Arizona Cardinals
+7 (-105) +260 40 Over
Under
Matchup
204 Pittsburgh Steelers
-7 (-115) -320
1:00p Game can be seen on FOX
205 Chicago Bears
+1 37 Over
Under
Matchup
206 Detroit Lions
-1
1:00p Game can be seen on CBS
207 Houston Texans
+4½ +175 40 Over
Under
Matchup
208 Cincinnati Bengals
-4½ -210
1:00p Game can be seen on FOX
209 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
-3½ (-105) -180 34½ Over
Under
Matchup
210 Carolina Panthers
+3½ (-115) +160
1:00p Game can be seen on CBS
211 Miami Dolphins
+5½ +190 39½ Over
Under
Matchup
212 Tennessee Titans
-5½ -230
1:00p Game can be seen on CBS
213 Indianapolis Colts
-6½ (-115) -260 44 Over
Under
Matchup
214 Jacksonville Jaguars
+6½ (-105) +220
1:00p Game can be seen on CBS
215 Cleveland Browns
+10 (-120) +375 43½ Over
Under
Matchup
216 Kansas City Chiefs
-10 (EVEN) -550
4:05p Game can be seen on FOX
217 Minnesota Vikings
-6 -240 44½ Over
Under
Matchup
218 San Diego Chargers
+6 +200
4:15p Game can be seen on CBS
219 Buffalo Bills
+4 +165 37 Over
Under
Matchup
220 Dallas Cowboys
-4 -190
4:15p Game can be seen on CBS
221 New York Jets
-3 (-130) -170 38 Over
Under
Matchup
222 Oakland Raiders
+3 (+110) +150
8:30p Game can be seen on ESPN
223 Baltimore Ravens
+7 +255 43 Over
Under
Matchup
224 St. Louis Rams
-7 -310

 

[ChadC]

I guess their lines are tailored to their players. I bet Indy -6 on Monday night though, that could be why.

 

[arnie'sarmy]

How do they know what way to tailor lines to individuals? Do you guys just bet underdogs or favorites? How would they know how you were going to bet?

 

[ChadC]

Anyone getting Philly +6 at bodog?? I see it at some of the live line sites and I think bodog is keeping me away from it.

 

[arnie'sarmy]

Just looked and have it at 5 1-2.

 

Chad...I'm seeing +6 -115 right now.

sb

 

[ChadC]

Weird, look at this;

http://www.covers.com/data/nfl/game/g1_10100.html

 

[ChadC]

I can't believe they do that it's weird.

 

[Mosi]

Believe it, they do it.

While most are seeing Philly +6 115 and 44 -110

I and other dog/under players see Philly +5.5 -110 and 43.5 -110

Do not know why some refuse to believe...it is true.

 

[ChadC]

Philly +6 -105 now, best deal in town and I can't even get in on it. I am going to email them and see what kind of answer I get. Bodog is still a great book though, pay fast and trustworth. I am in no way bashing them.

 

[Liedka]

Well....I am seeing Philly +6 -115. And I tend to play the dogs. One "system" I use has been 19-10-1 starting in week 5 and it only picks dogs.
I don't always play every selection, but I got Buff yesterday at +4.5. I have also been following a guy that selects CFL games. The past 5 weeks I've been about 9-0 on CFL games (including all 4 playoff contests last week - 2 dogs - and yesterday - 1 dog, 1 fav I bought to -6.5 and they won by 7).

I'm not convinced of this BoDog behavior, yet. But I am open to consideration. I am not a very large player, however, so maybe I'm not important enough.

 

[ChadC]

I don't consider myself a large player either, I have never laid more then $1000 on a single game in my life. Makes me wonder why they just would select the big dogs for this kind of buisness practice.

 

[ChadC]

Wow, just dropped to 5. Oh well, got the Beagles +3 at the half somewhere else at -105 small just for fun.

 

[Mosi]

And everyone else is seeing 5.5 and 44. This is the last I will post on the subject. They give out different lines after they falg players who jump on good lines. It is their business model.

 

[Liedka]

Still not sure they alter the lines...but not shocked if they do. Certainly, I believe the technology can track client behavior (what types of plays, how many, dogs vs. Favs, what numbers, etc.). All that info makes it possible for them to "adjust" lines for specific players.

It is not very cost effective to single out one person and adjust their line, unless they play very big and messing with a 1/2 point or shifting odds 10 or 20 cents will pay off bigtime.

For average players, they'd need to do so based on very basic patterns: only play dogs or only play favs or only overs or only unders (or predominately so, say, at 80% dogs).

If anyone played less than (say, about) 80% dogs, there is too much risk to monkey with the line. And, in any event, there is long term risk. If they use software to identify dog players, say, and move the line a 1/2 point in all games, then eventually the dog player will catch on, and start hitting them for only favorite plays as they will be getting a better line that way.

Finally, I play dogs, and I usually find that waiting until game time, most of the time that last half-hour will often mean that I get an extra 1/2 point as the dog player, since they tend to take so much favorite money. I've seen this over and over again, and it flies in the face of the theory that BoDog tilts lines for dog players.

'nuff said for now!!